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Dumas Kit #501, F4D Phantom by BriandKilby. Viewed 717 times.
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| BriandKilby | 01-Mar-15 17:46 | | formers both sides, stringers next. |
| rayl | 01-Mar-15 20:05 | | These laser-cut kits are sooooo nice! |
| BriandKilby | 02-Mar-15 08:03 | | they sure are! |
| BillParker | 02-Mar-15 12:28 | | This is for all y'all rich fellows out there: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151606288867?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
| BillParker | 02-Mar-15 12:28 | | Brian, will you do the cammo paint?
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| BillParker | 02-Mar-15 12:29 | | New paint scheme resource: http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/f-4/f-4_profile02.shtml |
| BriandKilby | 02-Mar-15 13:03 | | yea bill, that's the one i'm gonna do! love the southeast asia camouflage! |
| David Duckett | 04-Mar-15 20:04 | | RE the paint scheme link from cybermodeler: That chart is fascinating in that it shows just how many variations of the same color there can be, and how crazy, or anal as Moostang would say, a modeler can be in trying to duplicate an exact color. I don't think I've seen the term "scale fade" before but I can certainly attest to the fact that paint fades over the years. Most of the aircraft in storage at the boneyard at Davis-Monthan are painted to some degree as are the ones at several other storage facilities here in the desert southwest. You can find photos of them easily on the web. |
| BriandKilby | 05-Mar-15 09:42 | | thanks bill for posting the cyber modeler sight. I'm pretty lame when it comes to finding internet sights. |
| BillParker | 05-Mar-15 10:15 | | There has been some discussion in the plastic model world, regarding actual FS colors and that they're too dark when used on a small model, but fine on big models. (If I'm remotely making myself clear...) Some guys are now mixing somewhat lighter colored versions, much as Mr. Duckett does. My experience is that after I've done my best airbrush job on a 1:48 plane, it just looks black on the ceiling... That color website also showed me that aparently, Testor's ain't the only FS paint source in the world. |
| BriandKilby | 05-Mar-15 11:31 | | what does fs stand for? |
| David Duckett | 05-Mar-15 11:50 | | It's probably for "Federal Standard" but I'm guessing. One of the first things you learn in the military is that everything, everything, has a FSN, Federal Stock Number, and nomenclature, name, and if you get either wrong you won't get what you're looking for. Same with paint colors. You can't say combat boots, you say Boots, combat, men's, black. Some military folks, much as some police, get eat up with the language. I had a supervisor once who always said "utilize" for use. Looked very much like a pig, he did:-) |
| rayl | 05-Mar-15 12:34 | | Gents, I used to be a IPMS member (the plastic folks) and was a judge on Regional level. I found that the culture was just to acrimonious to continue, but I digress. What the plastic folks are attempting to replicate with the lightning of the colors is not so much the fade due to weathering, but the perception of colors when viewed from a "scale" distance perspective. In other words, if you have a 1/72 scale model, the color(s) would be representative of what the real plane would look like from 72 feet away. Of course sun angles, artificial lighting, and other atmospheric conditions would skew a person's perception of the colors. In other words, if it looks right to you, go for it. BTW: I saw a white & gold dress. |
| David Duckett | 05-Mar-15 12:41 | | "You hear what you want to hear, And see what you want to see". Harry Nilsson, The Point. |
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