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| Creosotewind, Comment for image # 12579 | 30 May 09 16:10 |
| James, these will be static. Maybe somewhere down the line someone may want to turn one into a flyer. |
| jgood, Comment for image # 12579 | 30 May 09 11:15 |
| Looks great, Jim. Are you designing this to be a static model, or flying? |
| poppy, Comment for image # 12579 | 29 May 09 19:56 |
| This is a truly impressive project. My mouth waters over getting to build one of the first kits. Magnificent!! |
| elevatoranj, Comment for image # 12578 | 29 May 09 18:49 |
| U could peddle that as art |
| JohnG., Comment for image # 12579 | 29 May 09 18:13 |
| Absolutely IMPRESSIVE undertaking...WOW!!! |
| Creosotewind, Comment for image # 12579 | 29 May 09 18:00 |
| Oh, I forgot. This shows four sheets, with me trying to nest the parts in the most efficient way. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12579 | 29 May 09 17:59 |
My intent at this point is to only build a half model, to make sure everything fits together. I'll be making adjustments during that build. The first full models will go to Poppy and Ted, or FrwyFlyr, who has been a tremendous help as you'll see in upcoming photos. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12578 | 29 May 09 17:57 |
After a while, things can get pretty messy. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12577 | 29 May 09 17:56 |
It's starting to show its shape. The tan lines replicate stringers. I'm trying to see if all the notches will line up correctly. So far, pretty good. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12576 | 29 May 09 17:55 |
A screen capture during the development process. Adobe Illustrator is not a CAD program. It only works in 2-D. The colors are only used to help me keep track of the various sections: wings, fuselage, cockpit, etc. I think on my next kit, I'll try a 3-D program. That may help with some of the figuring and head scratching I went through this time. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12575 | 29 May 09 17:52 |
This drawing has been very helpful to understand some details not readily apparent from my other sources. This is from the Grumman Ironworks book. |
| Creosotewind, Comment for image # 12574 | 29 May 09 17:50 |
| The circles show that the Panther was essentially a series of concentric or almost concentric rings. Later on I used a lot of circles as guides for adjusting shapes. At long last, high school geometry pays off! |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12574 | 29 May 09 17:48 |
The sections are overlaid on a scanned and enlarged copy of the fuselage. This gives me a good idea about where the shape needs tweaking. |
| FLYBOYZ, Comment for image # 12569 | 29 May 09 17:47 |
| A man once told me he build the F9 Panther made by comet.He said it was the best flying kit he ever built.It was supose to have a good wing span.I really don,t know it was before my time.I have looked for one haven,t seen this kit yet. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12573 | 29 May 09 17:47 |
The sections were scanned and then cleaned up using Adobe Illustrator. The intent for this kit was that it could be reproduceable. The wood would be laser cut. The cross lines are for reference and alignment. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12572 | 29 May 09 17:44 |
One of the many reasons these books are valuable. The section drawings are a big help. But you have to keep in mind that they may not be 100% accurate. I found three different sources having three slightly different shapes for the various sections. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12571 | 29 May 09 17:42 |
From a collector's standpoint, this kit is in really good shape. The only issue is a tear in the instruction sheet. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12570 | 29 May 09 17:39 |
The kit that started me on this trail. The Flight Engineering kits all have a wing span of 30". For this kit, that works out to just over 1/15 scale. The printwood and the instructions have a copyright of 1948, which means the kit is based on one of the prototypes. There are minor changes to the production planes. I wanted to capture one of them. |
| Creosotewind, Comment for image # 12569 | 29 May 09 17:33 |
| This started last year with a request from Poppy. He spotted, in one of my build photos, a Cleveland Flight Engineered Grumman Panther. He asked if I would make a copy of the printwood and instructions. In reviewing the kit, knowing how much detail I like, and how Poppy builds, I realized the Cleveland kit was a bit lacking in dimensional fidelity. I decided to make my own version.
First step was to gather as much reference material as possible. These books are a great start. I spent a lot of time on the internet, searching for "Grumman Panther", "F9F", "Panther Walkaround", etc. Anything I could think that would lead me to detailed photos and images of what I consider one of the most beautiful jets ever designed.
The Pima Air Museum in Tucson also has an F9F-4, so I took a few trips down there to gather reference photos and to eat great Mexican food. |
| Creosotewind, Image # 12569 | 29 May 09 17:13 |
Starting a custom built Grumman F9f 2/3 in 3/4", or 1/16 scale, similar to the old Cleveland Master models. James, could you make a category for that? |
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